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5 Apr 2011

Totalitarian control of Exclusive Brethren members means children have no true intellectual or religious freedom



Banyule and Nillumbik Weekly    -  Victoria, Australia         April 5, 2011

No class for excluded Brethren students

BY ALANA SCHETZER




CONTROVERSIAL sect Exclusive Brethren bans members from attending university on campus, despite its students being high academic achievers.

According to the federal government’s My School website, students at the sect-run Glenvale School achieved above average scores across all five areas of the National Assessment Program Literacy and Numeracy tests last year – writing, spelling, reading, numeracy, and grammar and punctuation.

Diamond Valley is home to one of the biggest Brethren communities in Australia.

Despite the high scores, students cannot attend university on-campus as, according to the sect, it would ‘‘…put them in conflict with their church fellowship’’.

Brethren spokesman Bob Lawrence, from PR firm Jackson Wells, told BNW, students who wish to continue their education can only do so via online courses or off-campus ‘‘delivery mechanisms’’.

Fifty per cent of the class of 2010 went on to tertiary education, and the other 50 per cent found jobs.

The school spends $19,965 per student, almost double what the average state school spends. My School revealed more than

$7 million of the school’s $11.7 million annual budget came from private donations.

Despite its private wealth, the school’s Community Socio-Education Advantage index is below the average.

Mr Lawrence said the school relies on a ‘‘high level of support from the community’’.

‘‘That support includes capital infrastructure which in all independent schools is mainly privately funded. Glenvale School has had an increased capital expenditure program to provide necessary education facilities for the students,’’ he said.

Last year, the sect won a controversial VCAT battle with residents to build its Melbourne headquarters, a 2000-seat ‘‘mega-church’’ in Diamond Creek. The sect also operates five smaller churches in the area.

Detractors, including former members, have labelled the religion a cult, saying it controls member’s lives and forbids them from engaging in society.

The school, which has 611 students across 13 campuses in Victoria, teaches grades three to year 12.

The sect also runs six other schools throughout Australia.


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25 Mar 2011

Exclusive Brethren demands apology for discrimination, survivor says cult should apologize for breaking up families


Goulburn Post  -  Australia     March 23, 2011

Former Brethren wants national apology

BY DAVID COLE



MEMBERS of the Exclusive Brethren in Goulburn have demanded an apology from Cr Geoff Peterson for offensive comments he allegedly made to them in a council building on September 23 last year.

It has prompted a former member of the Brethren, also living in Goulburn, to ask for a national apology from them for “ex-communicating” him and separating him from his family.

David Lidgard, of Goulburn, said last week he felt a national apology from the Brethren to him and others was overdue.

“I, along with all others who have been excommunicated from the Brethren should get a national apology from them for how we have been discriminated against,” Mr Lidgard said.

“I want an apology from them on behalf of all who have suffered from their ‘doctrine of separation’, whereby in the past they have excommunicated a person and separated them from their family.

“We talk of the Stolen Generation, who Kevin Rudd apologised to - we ex-Brethren also lost our families.”

Mr Lidgard said he was ex-communicated from the Brethren in 1961 for owning a transistor radio. “I have not had any contact with my parents since I was kicked out in 1961,” he said.

“I was ex-communicated from the Brethren on April 9, 1961 by the late Bruce Hales senior, who was then their Elect Vessel of God, and he instructed my parents that I had to leave the family home - because I had the transistor radio.

“Then three of my other brothers were treated the same. My eldest brother Arthur Lidgard was married with five children and he was excommunicated in 1962. He came home from work to find his wife and children had been removed by Brethren members from the family home.”

Mr Lidgard said his brother’s family was later reunited. He said the current issue with Cr Peterson had brought up personal “stuff” for him.

“I have been out of the Brethren for 50 years, but this opportunity has come up for me to express my opinion of the Brethren to the general public and about what the Brethren do to former members and what they are now doing to our councillor (Peterson),” he said.

“They are making a mountain out of a molehill,” he said.

“As far back as I can remember Brethren women have worn the ribbons in their hair - so what I am getting at is - why are the Brethren making such an issue of it?

“The Brethren should follow the teachings in the bible - such as Matthew 5-39 and Luke 6-29 - that is when someone strikes you on the right cheek you should turn the other cheek and not fight back.” Mr Lidgard said over the years he had written to various MPs, the NSW Anti- Discrimination Board and the Human Rights Commission in relation to his complaints against the Brethren.

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Exclusive Brethren schools funded by Australian government allow parents to evade taxes when paying school fees



The Age - Australia March 25, 2011

Exclusive Brethren parents claim 'tax lurk of biblical proportions'

by Michael Bachelard



Parents in the Exclusive Brethren avoid paying tax on the bulk of their children's school fees in an arrangement that would be illegal if sought by other Australian parents.

Independent senator Nick Xenophon has called for a tax office investigation into the arrangement which he said looked ''at first blush like a tax lurk of biblical proportions''.

When most parents pay school fees, they are paying it from income which has already been taxed. If they sought to avoid tax by paying it via tax-deductable donations, or through a family trust, they could be prosecuted for tax evasion.

But figures released on the MySchool website show the Exclusive Brethren, a radically separatist Christian sect with about 15,000 members in Australia, gets around this law.

The website reveals that, at their Victorian school, Glenvale, 54 per cent of the income is tax-free because it is paid by parents through distributions from family trusts as well as donations. Because a school is a tax-free entity, Brethren families who arrange their business in this way do not need to pay tax on that money.

This tax-free money makes up the majority of the Brethren schools' income, with another 28 per cent at Glenvale coming from government hand-outs, and the rest from modest fees paid from Brethren families' post-tax income.

At the Meadowbank Education Trust, the Exclusive Brethren school in Sydney, government funding (state and federal) totals almost $9000 per student, fees paid by parents from post-tax income are just $2700, and the rest, $14,300 per student, comes from tax-free donations and distributions.

This means that, though the government funding is on par with the most disadvantaged schools, the controversial Christian sect has $26,000 per student to spend — more than some top flight private schools such as Xavier College, Scotch College and Wesley College.

The pattern is replicated at the six Exclusive Brethren schools around Australia. In 2009, the sect raised $32.4 million in tax-free money to send its 2537 students to school.

This dwarfs the tax-free component of any other private school in Australia, and acts as a de facto second government subsidy to Exclusive Brethren schools. At other comparable small Christian schools, tax-free payments by parents make up between about 1 and 4 per cent of income.

The tax office has ruled that if parents seek a special agreement with an ordinary private school to pay their fees as a distribution from a family trust, it constitutes tax evasion. But the Exclusive Brethren obtained legal advice in about 2006 that their arrangement, which covers all their members, was legal.

Only Brethren children attend these schools, and in the theology of the sect, they are constantly warned to stay separate from the outside world. They are told that ''worldly'' people are dangerous, and will ''defile'' and ''contaminate'' them. As a result, many grow up in fear.

They are also all but barred from going to university.The sect, whose leader is Sydney-based businessman Bruce D. Hales, is adept at what it describes as ''spoiling the Egyptians'' — or taking as much money from the public purse as it can legally manage.

Exclusive Brethren spokesman Bob Lawrence, of PR firm Jackson Wells, denied the system was specifically set up to avoid tax.

''The schools and parents follow all appropriate tax, education and other guidelines and comply with Australian law,'' he said.

Senator Xenophon said the tax office ''needs to tell Australian taxpayers whether this sort of arrangement is sanctioned''.

''If what the Exclusive Brethren is doing is more broadly applied it could cause a multi-billion dollar hole in tax revenue,'' he said.


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3 Dec 2010

Intellectual abuse in Exclusive Brethren's government funded schools prevents kids from thinking too much

New Zealand Herald - May 9, 2010

Sect pupils in a class of their own


Imagine a school whose books had words blacked out or pages removed and large parts of the curriculum - particularly anything to do with puberty and sex - was simply not taught.

A school where teachers received unexpected late-night visits at home to check on their moral probity.

And where all aspects of school life are governed in every detail by a sacred text, but a committee has absolute discretion in deciding how to interpret it.

It may sound like the worst excesses of the Taleban in Afghanistan or the Iranian mullahs, but this is the prevailing orthodoxy in 15 Westmount schools across the country run by the Exclusive Brethren.

The Herald on Sunday reported last week that a teacher from one such school in the Northland town of Kerikeri was sacked for using a "morally defiling" modern version of Shakespeare's great tragedy King Lear in a Year 13 class.

Suzette Martin, 40, lost her job because the material had not been approved by the school's governing committee.

This week, teachers in Westmount schools have been summoned to meetings and required to sign agreements not to talk to the media.

A veil of silence has descended over the schools, which receive $2.59 million in Government funding and have a combined student body of 1619.

But former teachers and students spoken to by the Herald on Sunday describe a system that gets excellent results, but which is based on control and even manipulation.

A copy of an employment agreement obtained by this newspaper lists some remarkable requirements: teachers must disclose their "personal circumstances", forgo union membership and agree that evolution is a falsehood.

No inter-school sports or activities may bring students into contact with other schools, and promoting any interest by students in university is forbidden.

Six former teachers and two ex-students from Exclusive Brethren-run schools spoke about their experiences at the schools - most on the condition of anonymity.

One teacher spoke fondly of her time; the rest were glad never to have to go back.

Craig Hoyle, 20, was kicked out of the Exclusive Brethren early last year for telling his brothers and sisters he was gay.

He was at the Westmount school in Invercargill and said that the quality of education was extremely good - but very restrictive.

"Biology books had any pages involving sexual reproduction or a mention of genitals ripped out," he said.

"There was no [sex education], no discussions about puberty anywhere. You're just left to wonder what is going on. For someone like me who is questioning their sexuality, there is no one to talk to."

He said he failed one section in an NCEA test on radio because pupils were never allowed to use one.

"None of us had any idea what they were asking. We all failed in spite of the teacher trying to explain what the different things meant without using a radio."

Both Hoyle and another former student said they were brought up to look down on their teachers as "worldlies" - the word used for everyone who is not Exclusive Brethren.

The other student, a woman in her early 20s who left the sect over a year ago, said it was difficult integrating with the rest of society after her upbringing.

Family members turned against her; cutting all communication other than the odd letter declaring her insane or possessed.

"I completely hated it [at Westmount School]," she said. "Maybe some people were happy there, but I was unhappy at school and at home. It was too restrictive."."

Even when the Exclusive Brethren loosened its rules on technology in 2007, it was under strict controls.

Children and young people were not allowed mobile phones and texting capability was removed on phones owned by adults. All mobile phones, faxes, and computers had to be hired from a Brethren organisation.

The pupils constantly had it drilled into them that they were special people in special positions and that "worldlies were dirty people," said the woman.

Outsiders were seen as a potential threat "to our purity, to our soul" and were not to be trusted, she said.

Hoyle added that students were not allowed to develop close ties with teachers.

Teachers were forbidden from talking politics yet students were curious, said Hoyle.

During the 2005 election - when the Exclusive Brethren was at the centre of a furore over its donations to the National Party - the students grilled teachers about their political beliefs.

ALL BAR ONE former teacher at the Westmount schools describe them as an Orwellian environment.

The one supporter said she felt more support than at any other state school she had worked at.

The rest had different views particularly about the employment agreement clause requiring staff to "fully disclose his/her personal and domestic circumstances".

"If you refused or were too different you would never get the job," said one former teacher.

She said Exclusive Brethren members monitored staff to ensure they were no immoral activities.

"There were late-night visits. They would turn up at your house, uninvited, at around 9 or 9.30pm. They weren't trying to befriend you; they don't do that. They were just checking up on you. The clear intent is to catch you off-guard, to see your living conditions: are you living in sin outside marriage, are you getting a divorce, do you have a boyfriend, or - heaven forbid - have a woman partner. You feel like you are being spied on."

Another teacher said if they had a day off their classroom would be searched looking for any questionable material.

"They would pull you up on anything they found, and children were encouraged to tell if we said anything considered improper. Anything they remotely considered immoral was vetoed. You couldn't get anywhere with requests for material ... they don't want students thinking too much."

Plainly Suzette Martin, The King Lear teacher, would have had her work cut out getting committee approval for the modernised text - although Shakespeare experts interviewed this week said that the original had passages that were far more raunchy and stomach-churning than the "translation".

The teacher spoken to by the Herald on Sunday said classic novels, such as To Kill A Mockingbird, were banned and films censored.

"It's like being blindfolded with your hands tied behind your back and hoping while trying to teach," said one teacher.

"They have every resource money can buy, as long as its approved, which of course means many are not. Everything goes through a committee for approval or censoring. The library is full of books with pages ripped out."

Despite the censorship, Education Review Office reports on the schools note the high achievement levels.

"The students did perform extremely well," said one teacher.

"They are very motivated to prove they are better than outsiders. With many kids that is half the battle. Its hard to stop them achieving with the motivation like that."

Bruce Owen, the president of the private schools teachers' union, the Independent Schools Education Association, said that the association had had one teacher from a Westmount school approach them in recent years.

The teacher had to keep the membership secret and no material could be sent to the school. The union's employment officer, Mairi Ferguson, said the employment agreements the staff had to sign were draconian but legal.

Massey University historian Peter Lineham said the Westmount schools presented an unusual case.

"There are almost no Exclusive Brethren students who can teach their students. They have to trust people to teach who do not share their values."

While most religious schools had a religious component, Exclusive Brethren schools were almost totally secular because they don't trust others to teach religion - "the morals are taught at home".

He said they took a 19th-century utilitarian outlook on education. "They aim to provide education to enable to them to live in the world. But, of course, the world they live in is very different from the world you and I live in.

"These schools are doing a very, very good job. They provide a good education as long as it fits in with what they need and serves the broader aims of the group."

More recently, male students had been studying at university level through extramural classes, but the focus was on business and legal fields, said Lineham. "They have enormous bills for accountants and legal bills."

At last count there were between 7000 and 8000 Exclusive Brethren members and if the schools were showing rolls of more than 1000 it showed there were a very large number coming through, he said.

Paul Morris, a religious studies professor from Victoria University, said the employment contract and situation at the Westmount schools raised important questions about Government funding of "religious" schools and appropriate curricular compliance.

"As a university educator I feel that it is rather sad to deny students the possibilities of a higher education, but I do understand their association of universities with values, often explicitly secular values, that are clearly challenging to their own."

Associate Education Minister Heather Roy said independent schools were free to set their own curricula and have their own distinct ethos as the Government is not directly involved in running them.

"Parents choose to send their children to these schools."

Attempts to contact Exclusive Brethren hierarchy were turned down.

Daryl Maden, chief executive of the Northern Education Trust, which runs the Kerikeri Westmount School, said there would be no comment until after current employment disputes were settled.


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15 Nov 2010

Australian government gives $70m to Exclusive Brethren cult schools to indoctrinate children



The Australian - January 12, 2010

Brethren schools get $70m in funding

Rick Wallace The Australian


THE Rudd government is handing more than $70 million to schools run by the Exclusive Brethren, a religious sect Kevin Rudd described as an "extremist cult" that breaks up families.

The sect's schools have secured more than $8.4m under the government's school building stimulus package and they will share in $62m in recurrent taxpayer funding.

Documents show a Brethren-run school at Swan Hill in northern Victoria was granted $1.2m for a library and $800,000 for a hall when its most recent annual report shows it had just 16 pupils and already had a library.

Grants data released by the commonwealth shows that Brethren schools in every state received funding under the $12.4 billion schools stimulus package. Despite the Brethren's past disdain for computers, figures show its schools have received more than 300 under the commonwealth computers-in-school initiative.

Brethren schools have also secured grants under the Schools Pride program. All up, the 2400 children in Brethren schools will each receive the equivalent of $26,127 in recurrent funding and $11,200 in stimulus funding.

Australian Education Union federal president Angelo Gavrielatos said these sums were outrageous and the funding system had to be urgently replaced.

"How can the government justify handing tens of millions of dollars to an organisation it believes is a cult while public schools which educate the vast majority of our children are struggling for funds?" Mr Gavrielatos said.

"The government has said it will review schools funding this year. That review needs to be begin as a matter of urgency to allow for a proper public debate on where school funding should be directed and for what purpose."

The Brethren is a fundamentalist Christian sect that lives by the doctrine of separation from mainstream society.

Brethren schools must teach the normal curriculum, although reports say some novels are banned and chapters on sex and reproduction are excised from science textbooks.

Brethren members are taught to shun broader society. They do not use TV, radios and do not watch movies or eat in restaurants. They do not vote, are opposed to unions and other forms of association, except their own church.

The Brethren has been accused by former members, and the Prime Minister in his 2007 comments, of denying those who leave access to their children, a claim the organisation denies.

Doug Burgess, the head of the Brethren's Victorian schools, said its schools were growing rapidly and the funding reflected that.

He defended the sect's right to school funding, saying the children would otherwise be enrolled in state schools at full taxpayers' expense. Mr Burgess did not clarify whether sex education was taught at Brethren schools, but said textbooks were used according to state curriculum.

A spokeswoman for Education Minister Julia Gillard said independent schools' funding would be reviewed this year but declined to address the conflict between Mr Rudd's comments and the funding of Brethren schools.

The spokeswoman said Brethren schools met criteria for funding and policy allowed for flexibility on teaching sex education.

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The Australian - January 13, 2010

Exclusive Brethren enjoying $1m taxpayer windfall

by Rick Wallace | The Australian

THE Exclusive Brethren is getting more than $1 million a year in "overpayments" for its NSW schools under the Rudd government's independent schools funding system.

Despite being assessed as wealthy, the Brethren's mushrooming network of schools is being funded at a higher rate than independent schools in battling regional communities such as Bourke and Longreach.

The secretive but financially savvy sect has taken advantage of a "no-disadvantage" clause put in the funding system by the Howard government, of which the Brethren was a strong supporter.

Federal education authorities warned the funding loophole was giving the Brethren a windfall, according to a 2006 report seen by The Australian, but nothing was done about it.

The controversy follows revelations in The Australian yesterday that despite being labelled an "extremist cult" by Kevin Rudd, the commonwealth is giving Brethren schools more than $70m. The generous funding status for the Brethren's NSW schools, which go under the Meadowbank Education Trust banner, was extended by the government until 2012.

The no-disadvantage clause means that despite the wealth of the Brethren schools' communities, their funding level is preserved at that awarded to the original campus at Meadowbank in Sydney. Australian Education Union federal president Angelo Gavrielatos said the funding guarantee was costing taxpayers $3.5 billion a year and must be urgently reviewed.

"The over-funding of the Exclusive Brethren's MET school is a prime example of a corrupted funding system, with half the private schools in the country funded above their entitlement," Mr Gavrielatos said.

A statement from the Brethren said "there has never been a special funding arrangement for Brethren schools" and they had always received their proper entitlements.

A spokeswoman for Education Minister Julia Gillard said Labor rolled over the Howard-era SES model to give schools certainty.

This article was found at:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/exclusive-brethren-enjoying-1m-taxpayer-windfall/story-e6frg6nf-1225818598020

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The Australian - January 13, 2010

In sect we trust

James Jeffrey | Opinion

IN his report yesterday about government funding of Exclusive Brethren schools, our colleague Rick Wallace referred to the Brethren as a sect - though he also quoted Kevin Rudd's description of the great ex-communicators as a "dangerous cult".

That was enough for Brethren spokesman John Anderson who, as part of his reaction to the article, was eager to split that particular hair: "There is nothing about our belief systems that remotely resembles a cult. We are comfortable with the far less pejorative term 'sect'." This is presumably because even sects are comfortable with ostracising former members and keeping them from their children, not just those nasty cults. We'll leave off with some earlier words from leader, elect vessel Bruce Hales, who explained why it's better to stay separate from non-Brethren: "You come in touch with worldly people; if you get a little close to them, you'll have some sense of defilement." We believe the feeling is like an old-fashioned building society: entirely mutual.

This article was found at:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/in-sect-we-trust/story-e6frgdk6-1225818575976

20 Feb 2009

Interview with psychologist Jill Mytton about religious abuse [VIDEO]

DigitalJournal.com February 19, 2009

by Bart B. Van Bockstaele

For his 2006 groundbreaking documentary “Root of All Evil,” Richard Dawkins talked with cult victim and psychologist Jill Mytton. This hair-raising interview can now be seen on YouTube in its entirety, raw and uncut.






Religion enjoys a special status in western society, and even more so in the United States. Criticizing it or exposing its excesses is "not done," especially not if Christianity is the culprit. World-renowned Oxford professor Richard Dawkins talked with psychologist Jill Mytton about her personal experiences and her professional opinion. They occasionally mention a study she did on the subject.

Please take into account that this video was never meant to be aired. It is the raw, uncut tape of the entire interview. In spite of this, it is a very enlightening interview that asks a lot of questions that usually aren't being asked.

Jill Mytton had been brought up in the Exclusive Brethren, a Christian fundamentalist sect, and this is probably what drove her to become a counselling psychologist. When Richard Dawkins asks her how her upbringing in this sect is relevant to her profession, she talks about the deprivation she felt, not being allowed to make friends.

Richard Dawkins asks her what she means by “religious abuse.” She says that she means that children are not brought up to develop their own belief systems, that they are indoctrinated into the belief system of the group they are growing up with. In her case, she was not aware at all that there were other perspectives on the world than the one of the Exclusive Brethren.

When asked if any religion has something of the same elements, Jill Mytton says she thinks that other religions could be OK, depending on how wise the parents are, because parents have a tremendous influence on children’s belief systems and the values and attitudes they grow up to hold.

She talks about the indoctrination of children and the way that children in schools such as those of the Exclusive Brethren are not taught how to think critically and that the information they receive there is usually very restricted to the particular areas that a particular group approves of. Children of Exclusive Brethren parents are not allowed to read fiction or to use a computer.

The children are also being frightened, they are taught about hell, fire and such. Looking back at her childhood, Jill Mytton says that it was dominated by fear of disapproval in the present and of eternal damnation in the future, because for a child, images of hell, fire and gnashing of teeth are not metaphorical at all, but very real. She also thinks that the people telling her about these things actually believe that they are reality.

“What happens in hell?” asks Richard Dawkins, and Jill Mytton says that even after so many years, it still affects her. “Hell is a fearful place, it’s complete rejection by God.” “There is real fire, real torment, real torture, and it goes on forever, so there is no respite from it.”

She thinks that there are many similarities between religious abuse and sexual abuse, because both are an abuse of trust, denying the child the right to feel free and open and able to relate to the world in a normal way. Both elicit fear and guilt. Religious abuse also prevents a child from reaching its full potential.

Leaving a cult is extraordinary difficult, she says, because one has to leave behind a whole social network, maybe a system in which one has been brought up, a belief system that one has held for years, family and friends have often to be left behind because they will no longer want to talk to one. One no longer really exists for them. One may lose one’s job. There is also the continuously lingering fear that there might be a God after all, and that it will come down on one.

People who actually leave are often unable to cope with the real world. They lack social skills, don’t know who to turn to for advice and information or what their rights are. They may not know how to think things through or how to make decisions and choices, because when they are in a group like the Exclusive Brethren, these things are often done for them. They do not even have their own moral conscience because the group defines that. There is only right or wrong, and there is nothing in the middle.

Richard Dawkins then asks why they would do such horrible things to children, effectively ruining their lives. Jill Mytton says that it has something to do with control and a sense of power that they experience. It can also be because they themselves are trapped in the system, which is why she does not blame her parents.

Biologists studying animal behaviour are very interested in the period of life during which imprinting happens, and Richard Dawkins asks Jill Mytton if there is a period of human child development during which this type of abuse is particularly abusive or influential. She agrees and cites herself as an example, because she has problems grasping what “friend” is, even now, after more than 4 decades.

As a child, because she belonged to the Exclusive Brethren, other children ostracized her, and that became even more painful during her teenage years. What comforted her was something she learned at the Exclusive Brethren, namely that she had the light and the truth, that she was special, part of an elite.

She fears for the current generation of children at the Exclusive Brethren because they now have to go to schools belonging to them and they are therefore continuously hearing how worthless they are, born in sin.

An American colleague of Richard Dawkins’ had postulated that the reason that America, uniquely among Western countries, is a country of religious maniacs may be because it is a country of immigrants who had left everything back in Europe and that they needed some type of surrogate family, that the churches filled that role, and that this is why they have so much power. That seems to tie in which Jill Mytton’s experience that many people leaving the Exclusive Brethren feel a need to belong to some group.

Jill Mytton mentions that belonging to a church can also be helpful. People attending church have less distress. It does not matter whether they believe or not. It is the actual attendance that is important, the social network and the structure it provides them. She also warns that one must be careful not to go too far.

People going to university for the first time are very vulnerable because they are often away from home for the very time and this is used by Christian cults of different types to suck them into their specific cult, often by a process called “love bombing” (they offer a type of belonging, feelings of warmth and welcome that they may have been deprived of in the past).

The people who do the love bombing actually believe in what they are doing, thinks Jill Mytton, and that makes it all the more dangerous. She also thinks that some people at the top do not believe in it, that they have simply built an empire of a kind and that they are essentially the earthly God sitting at the top.

Richard Dawkins thinks that Jill Mytton was quite convincing in mentioning the benefits of religion and asks her if she thinks that there is also a downside to it. She thinks that unhealthy types of religion tend to diminish the self. Instead of people being valued for their strengths and their potential, they are seen as wicked and sinners, and even when they do good works it is not really them doing it, but instead God working through them.

Sin is seen as something that will be judged, and forgiveness is extremely difficult. When one transgresses, one feels shame, guilt and fear, because of the consequences of the act. Unhealthy religions also tend to think in absolutes: you are a sinner or you are saved. It is true or it is not true, there is no room for ambiguity or uncertainty. Life is not like that. There is a huge area in the middle, where most of us live.

Jill Mytton also thinks that in many religions people do not apply the Golden Rule (don’t do to someone else what you don’t want to be done to you). An individual moral sense is not developed. Rather the Holy Books or the leaders decide what is right or wrong. She cannot think of any aspect of growing up that is not stultified by this kind of upbringing, and considers that a very serious matter.

Mytton’s more general view on faith schools is not much more positive. She says that children must have the right to choose their own path and that any faith school that does not allow that is not fulfilling the purpose of education and is denying the child’s basic human rights. She also does not know of a faith-based school that would be that open, even though she accepts the possibility.

This is a different objection, says Richard Dawkins, than the usual one that says that these schools breed exclusivity and sectarian divisiveness. Jill Mytton does not like segregation.

She also prefers education and religion to be separated, and she would like politics and education to be separated as well.

Mytton quotes Billy Graham as asking why people want to understand God, God is so much of a higher being, people should just accept and have faith. At first, she accepted that, but not for very long. Many religions, she says, do not allow children to ask questions, their natural inquiring mind is suppressed. They do not learn to criticize or to evaluate what they are hearing.

Religion is absolute. It tends to say ‘this is the truth, and there is no other.’ When you do not believe what the religion is saying, this is turned around, there is nothing wrong with the religion, but something is wrong with you, and again, you are made to feel guilty for not believing in it.

People are also warned not to be curious and inquisitive and not to accept anything from the outside, because it is evil and must not be listened to. Discussion with the outside world is discouraged. Information coming in is therefore very much controlled, and this is true for any religion, more so for extremes like the Exclusive Brethren, and less for those at the other end of the spectrum.

Richard Dawkins then inquires if the police could be involved in such cases, that one ought to seriously think about protecting children from their own parents. Jill Mytton agrees and says that she has thought about what she could do. She then says that she considers this type of restriction a form of mental abuse. When you tell a child that it is going to roast forever in hell, that is abusive, she says.

She compares this type of mental abuse with sexual abuse and other forms of abuse and that the study she did has indeed shown that the psychological after effects are very similar.

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This interview contains a number of elements that most of us are not used to hear about. In fact, the interview demonstrates another "last taboo." What do you think about religious abuse?


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